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Looks great to me Luc!!!! I like it!!Smile
"This is the 44 Magnum Auto Mag and holds a 300 grain cartridge and if properly used it can remove the fingerprints"!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Luc V. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 2008 at 8:56pm
Bring yours when you come over, and I'll do the them also. Wink
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TC, when you mentioned OWS (Old Western Scrounger) and Cor-Bon, were you talking about shooting their factory loads? As far as the bullets go, others probably know what exact brand they use, but the OWS I have are 210 HP and appear the same as the 240 C-B, excepting weight. The OWS brass is starline and if I recall right so is C-B. Both of their hollow points look nothing like Hornady XTPs.
 
Also, you haven't by any chance chronographed the OWS? I could maybe guess the results, but just curious.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ginsaw Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 2008 at 10:49pm
Add-on to last post. On the selecting Hornadys for hunting, I don't know if you've tried them yet for that, but I have taken several deer with the 44 JHP/XTP and had good results in the field. However, these were in revolver factory loads - 1350 fps, which is what I would like to settle on for a hunting load in the AM. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jw4570 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Mar 2008 at 12:11am
I've been using the Nosler 240 JSP for my 44 AMP
 
AS for 357 AMP, I use the Remignton 158 JSP or 125 JSP.  Yep Remington.  The Hornady XTP's shed jackets after penetrating 1/2" ply at 25 yards.  The Remington's seem to work well.
 
I'm partial to JSP's for rounds in the 357 and up class.  I don't think you need as much expansion in these calibers as you do penetration.  Of course, I'm a novice compared to most on these boards concerned with hunting with the AMP.
 
 
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We may have covered this before, so I don't want to be repetitive about jacket separation, but I've found over the yrs a great many jackets in real cleanly deceased deer from many guns using factory loads, including the 41 and 44 up to and including 30-30 and 30-06. It routinely occurs in deer hunting, especially with close range shots. A frequent place to find them is the exit area or the hide. So it's not something I ever considered a problem. But maybe it is with larger tougher game. Others no doubt know more about that.
 
Unfortunately my experience with taking game with the 357 is nill. One just never bothered to present itself for a shot when carrying the old Model 27. At any rate I'll never get to find out. They changed the rules here and now it's .40 and up only in handguns.
 
But I do like those XTPs.
 
Does anyone here who has the AM C-B rounds know what brand of bullet they use? I just think it'd be interesting to know. Perhaps it's those Noslers?
 
 
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For feeding reliability in my 44 AMP, I've had very good luck with Sierra 240 grain and 180 grain JHP truncated conical bullets when hunting. For general fun shooting, plinking, and/or paper-punching (which lately is mostly what I have been doing), the Speer 240 grain truncated conical FMJ is my choice.  Back in the 1970's, I used to pull the CDM original bullets and reload those rounds with WW 296 or H110 but still using the CDM bullets whereupon they gave good service. The Nosler Gold  Partition bullet loaded into 45 Win Mag is an excellent bullet with reliable feeding when I am using my scoped 45 Win Mag barrel. My plaything 45 ACP barrel only likes 230 grain FMJ bullets loaded to GI velocities.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TC357MAX Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Mar 2008 at 9:52pm
Thanks for everyones input.

Ginsaw, yes the ows and c-b are "factory loads". Both use stars and strips brass, ows is 240gr sp fn and c-b are 240gr jsp hp. I have not chronographed any of the loads. This will give me a good excuse to buy one. I will also try some different bullets and see what happens.
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The Cor-Bon don't appear to be Nosler, neither JHP nor JSP.  The cone has more slope (ie, pointier?)

 

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I think everyone means to say all the new loads use Starline Brass, different company than Stars and Stripes.
 
Hey Rick, come down and do an article on Stars and Stripes since they moved close to me, I'll meet ya, and we can shooting!  I need to call the owner and see if I can go over one day.
 
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