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Topic: New here
Posted By: Yellow
Subject: New here
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2023 at 2:25pm
Hi guys.

I’m new here. I’m 40 years young Wink and I’m from Belgium, shooting since 2010, and I think I have quite a nice collection already (mostly recent guns). 

I’m waiting for a few automag iii pistols in .30 carbine at the moment, and I guess I’ll have them in about 2-3 weeks. Two of them are IAI and one is AMT. I’m very curious what the differences between them will be. 
One of the IAI pistols will be a project-gun as the previous owner milled away the top of the slide where the rear sight sits, to install an ugly piece of picatinny rail to install a rail mounted red dot. It really looked like sh*t, so this gun will need a lot of attention to make it look nice again. I’m planning to make a low, nicely fitting adapter plate for a trijicon rmr and since the gun isn’t in it’s original configuration anymore anyway, I think I’m going to Cerakote it as this gun doesn’t look really good anymore either. 

In the last two weeks I scrolled through 163 pages of different topics and I’ve found A LOT of information already. Too bad most of the pictures on the forum are not visible anymore. When I have collected my guns I’ll try to post some pictures here!





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Posted By: Yellow
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2023 at 2:39pm
The project gun


Posted By: Yellow
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2023 at 2:40pm
This was a picture I made of the IAI gun when I went to the guy who was selling it. 


Posted By: Luc V.
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 7:42am
Hi and welcome to the AMT forum!

That pistol seems to be a good start to make something different.
As you say, a good low profile reddotsight would be a good option since the original rearsight and base is gone...

The RMR is a nice idea.  I'm a fan of the "docter/Noblex" sights.

We look foreward to see the progress on your project, it's always nice to see new and different ideas!


Posted By: Yellow
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 9:09pm
Thank you very much Luc!
I’ve seen a few pictures of some items from your collection on the forum, and all I can say is “WOW, where did you find them in our small country?! Smile

For sure I’ll keep you guys updated with the progress of the project!

If anyone knows where I can find some hammerstruts, please let me know. The pistols I bought are used (one a bit more than the other two) so I’m almost sure that I will need to replace some of them. 



Posted By: jw4570
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2023 at 9:21pm
Welcome!  Lots of great information here.  Not a busy forum.  

When you take that slide apart, there is a ball bearing (and spring) in that safety lever that will go flying somewhere if you aren't super careful.  Also, it is a real pain to put those back in or it was for me.  Just so you know, it's a US sized bearing and not metric.  Might not be the easiest to find if you loose it over there.  However, if you do, your local bicycle shop might have one if they work on older bikes with loose ball bearings as there were a lot of "English" hubs out there (and even Shimano used "English" bearings when they were loose).  I went to my stash of loose ball bearings for bicycles when I lost mine......

I think you should make the adapter and try to clean up the slide and leave it natural.  or at least try it that way until you know your adapter works.

Jason


Posted By: Yellow
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2024 at 9:36pm

Just a little update on the optics plate for one of the IAI automag iii’s. It fits really nice on the slide. I just need to make some cosmetic cuts to make it less ‘bulky’. 

The AMT automag iii is back to the guy who sold it. I had to hammer (yes, with a hammer…) the slide open after every, or after every second shot. Something was definitely wrong with that gun. 

On the other IAI automag iii, the hammer strut was broken when it arrived. Anyone has a replacement hammerstrut available? Impossible to find one anywhere Cry


Posted By: jw4570
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2024 at 11:41pm
That looks good!   Mount up a sight and shoot it!   Once it’s all worked out, pretty it up.  

Jason


Posted By: jw4570
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2024 at 11:49pm
The Automag II hammer strut is reproduced here.  I don’t have a III so I don’t know what the difference is. 

Real important to not pull the trigger with the slide off, the hammer over travels and bends the strut, at least on an Automag II. 


Posted By: Luc V.
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2024 at 5:53pm
Hi Yellow,
that looks like a fine job so far! I look foreward to the end product.

About the broken hammerstrut, why not make your own?
if you can make this scopebase, you won't have much trouble to make one. Just use a good piece of steel.
I would help you out, but I only have one spare left and have five pistols in use...


Posted By: Luc V.
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2024 at 6:02pm
Some other comments on your above post, about the malfunction pistol, I wonder if that small pin and spring was missing INSIDE the recoilrod?
Some seem to work without the pin but most of them need this.
See older thread:
https://www.amtguns.info/automag-iii-9mm-win-mag_topic889_page5.html?KW=AMT+III+BARREL" rel="nofollow - https://www.amtguns.info/automag-iii-9mm-win-mag_topic889_page5.html?KW=AMT+III+BARREL



Posted By: Yellow
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2024 at 8:36pm
Originally posted by jw4570 jw4570 wrote:

The Automag II hammer strut is reproduced here.  I don’t have a III so I don’t know what the difference is. 

Real important to not pull the trigger with the slide off, the hammer over travels and bends the strut, at least on an Automag II. 

Thanks for the tip. I never pull the trigger with the slide off. I guess the previous owner has done it, otherwise it wouldn’t have been broken. 

I found a picture on the forum with both the AMii and the AMiii hammerstruts. The AMii hammerstrut has different dimensions, so I don’t think it would fit. I’ll try to make one myself. 


Posted By: Yellow
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2024 at 8:40pm
Originally posted by Luc V. Luc V. wrote:

Hi Yellow,
that looks like a fine job so far! I look foreward to the end product.

About the broken hammerstrut, why not make your own?
if you can make this scopebase, you won't have much trouble to make one. Just use a good piece of steel.
I would help you out, but I only have one spare left and have five pistols in use...

Thanks! But all the work was done by a friend of mine and a few of his connections, so all the credit to them Smile

I’ll try to make my own hammerstrut. I wouldn’t want you to sell your only spare hammerstrut if you have 5 AM’s Wink  
Is the hammerstrut hardened? Or is it just regular sheet steel?

By the way, where are you from?? I would really be interested to have a look at your collection!!


Posted By: Yellow
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2024 at 8:51pm
And concerning your second reply; both the spring and the plunger were there. I had 2 gunsmiths have a look at it, but they both didn’t have a clue what the problem could be. 
When firing a round, the slide came back about 3-4 mm and then everything blocked. 
You could feel that the empty case was loose in the chamber, but it was impossible to pull the slide any further. Tapping a brass punch on the breechface with a hammer was the only solution…
We believe the top front of the chamber and the slide couldn’t pass each other and got stuck. But cycling the thing by hand was no problem at all. I don’t have an explanation for it. 


Posted By: Luc V.
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2024 at 12:12pm
Originally posted by Yellow Yellow wrote:

[QUOTE=Luc V.]
By the way, where are you from?? I would really be interested to have a look at your collection!!

I'm just as yourself from Belgium, but from the "far west"...

Check PM for more info.
Luc V.



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