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    Posted: 06 Aug 2025 at 7:03pm
All,

Recently this was noticed in a photo I posted (this is an enlargement):





The magazine on the right was one of two that came in the box with my like-new AM III in 30 Carbine and the one on the left I bought as a spare. Somebody here said one is a 9mm magazine, differentiated by the different angle on the end of the follower. Since the two that came with the gun are like the one in the right I assumed he meant the one on the left was a 9mm magazine. 

Comparing notes with John Lodahl, he sent me pics from his collection:




The mags on the right have a follower with a flatter profile at the end and are purportedly from 30 carbine guns. The one on the left has a black follower and is from a 9mm gun. 

So, what’s going on here?  My initial thought was that the one with the longer flat portion of the follower was a 9mm magazine based on what was pointed out in the other post. But my 30 magazine followers have the same shape as John’s 9mm follower. 

Given that the magazines are all unmarked, what (if any) is the distinction between 9 and 30 magazines?  Or are they all just the same, and the different follower shapes are an early vs late production thing? Or did my 30 Carbine gun just happen to come with a pair of 9mm magazines by mistake? (The seller had numerous AM IIIs and could have mixed them up).

Please, educate us if you can!

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Originally posted by Pantera Mike Pantera Mike wrote:

The mags on the right have a follower with a flatter profile at the end and are purportedly from 30 carbine guns. The one on the left has a black follower and is from a 9mm gun. 


That is what came with my 30 and 9mm guns as well.

However, it would not surprise me at all, that AMT shipped guns with mis-matched magazines if they happened to be out of stock of the correct mag at the time.  Knowing how AMT operated, it would be a fair bet that some 9mm guns were shipped with 30 carbine mags and vice versa. 

Tony




Run it up, until you blow it up, then back it down a bit.
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Tony,

I’m still confused. We are talking about two different shapes and you refer to ‘that’ without specifying which you are speaking of?


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Black follower that has a smaller flat usually shipped with the 9mm guns, and orange follower with the larger flat usually shipped with the 30 carbine guns.  But if AMT was out of stock, they most likely shipped either mag with either gun.

The small flat orange follower may have been for either one or they decided it would work with both.  I don't know.

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FYI the metal is also cut a little differently on the back side.
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30 Carbine loaded in both mags
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pantera Mike Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2025 at 5:16am
Okay, but again, which is which?

The top magazine in the pics above has a shorter base and a longer flat front on the follower. Are you saying this is what the 30 Carbine magazines looked like, and the 9mm magazines had the longer base and shorter flat section?

Or did the 30 Carbine and 9mm guns all get the same magazines, and the magazine design changed partway through production, so the issue is early vs late instead of 30 vs 9?

My 30 gun came with two magazines of the long base/short front variety…and it seems to feed and eject fine?
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9mm win mag in both mags. the half flat top less slopped the the casing drags on front of mag.
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I have no actual known factual info. My 9 win mag came with one of each. As far as i can tell the flat top harder slopped is the 9 win mag. My info and opinion is based off findings of the photos i provide.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Luc V. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Aug 2025 at 8:24am
Thanks for the info AMT addict,
I check the rearside of my mags to see if the slot is different.
Here's a tread we talked about the mags .30Vs9mm in the past.
I could say that my mags work the same as Pantera Mike's.


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