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M2HB 
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 Topic: Auto Mag Ltd. Production numbersPosted: 30 Dec 2025 at 6:47pm |
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Does anywhere know how many pistols they actually produced before filing bankruptcy?
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BEEMER1
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Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 10:20pm |
Here are the production numbers that I think are right from the ATF. Their forms are a little confusing so I think this is right. 2024 - Not out yet 2023 - 15 units 2022 - 180 units 2021 - 118 units 2020 - 15 units 2019 - 5 units 2018 - 29 units (Exel Ind, Bullhead City,AZ) I have been told that a few were made in 2024 but I have never been able to find that years report.
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M2HB
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Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 11:28pm |
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Thanks for the info.
I would have guessed much higher than that for 6 years of production. I’m glad I’ve got my original from many years ago. I put money down on a Shrike upper and I finally got it after about 10 years, but at least I got it.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 11:39pm |
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Of the 29 that Exel produced, am I correct that 4 of them survived and the rest were destroyed after the fall out between them of not getting paid for their work? Also, it sounds like Brian must be getting his uppers completed and delivered! Great news!
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BEEMER1
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Posted: 30 Dec 2025 at 11:58pm |
The 29 pistols produced at Excel have all survived. The serial numbered frames that were destroyed are not counted. The first 22 Founder's Editions, FE-01 to FE- 22 were al made and marked as made at Excel. There were four Excel guns, EXL-1 to 4 and several experimental pistols with "EXP-" numbers.
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Posted: 02 Jan 2026 at 10:06pm |
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Is the number know of how many frames Exel ended up chopping up?
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BEEMER1
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Posted: 03 Jan 2026 at 3:03am |
From the copy of the prodution report that I saw, there were a total of 20 serial numbered frames destroyed. The numbers were: FE-02, FE-23 to FE-40, and EXPT-01. The FE numbers were replaced later with Loris produced guns. All of these frames were produced from left over castings from the 70's production and Patrick acquired them from Walter Sanford when he bought him out. There were hundreds of these old castings, possibly up to 500, and I believe all of them were destroyed as they were deemed unuseable. It is said that they were left over from the 70's as they were all out of tolerance. I was to receive two of the early Founder's Editions and Patrick told me that they were not a good product so I waited. I received FE-23 and FE-24, the first pistols out of the Loris shop.
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Posted: 03 Jan 2026 at 2:45pm |
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So I have seen two different unfinished unserialized frames come up for sale recently. I thought it would be kind of neat to have but also figured they were out of spec being why they were never finished. Being that they both came available recently, I figured they came the bankruptcy auction, but if they were all destroyed who knows. Maybe they grew legs and walked out the back door sometime in the last 55 years and just happened to both show up recently. 1st one was offered on broker think for 650 but pretty sure it didn't sell. 2nd was through an auction and went for 200. I compared the photos and it looked as they were different.
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Posted: 04 Jan 2026 at 12:16am |
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