1911 22 conversion

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   Been thinking about getting a JAC or other 22 top and a 1911 Essex lower for a 22 conversion unit. Any thoughts?

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Rick Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Status: Offline Points: 147	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rick Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 1911 22 conversion Posted: 10 Jun 2008 at 3:20am
	Been thinking about getting a JAC or other 22 top and a 1911 Essex lower for a 22 conversion unit. Any thoughts?

AUTOMAG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: Virginia Beach Status: Offline Points: 1046	Post Options Post Reply Quote AUTOMAG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 2008 at 3:53am
	Rick, here is my 22LR conversion. It is an Advantage Arms Target Model on a dedicated RIA frame. The Advantage Arms kit is the only one that I know of that locks back on the last shot just like a standard 1911!!! I lapped the frame and slide for a perfect fit!!!
	"This is the 44 Magnum Auto Mag and holds a 300 grain cartridge and if properly used it can remove the fingerprints"!!!

jw4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: FL Status: Offline Points: 1334	Post Options Post Reply Quote jw4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 2008 at 10:20pm
	I have a late model Colt Ace Conversion and it's nice, but the JAC is more practical. My JAC took some fiddling to work, but it works great now. One of my problems was a lightened mainspring I was using. Second, it didn't have enough firing pin protrusion. Many people have had their JAC kits work just perfect out of the box. My JAC kit is very accurate! Jason

AUTOMAG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: Virginia Beach Status: Offline Points: 1046	Post Options Post Reply Quote AUTOMAG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 2008 at 10:44pm
	Jason, is the JAC kit the Ciener kit? If so I heard that his customer service is just about non-existent!!! Any truth to it!!!
	"This is the 44 Magnum Auto Mag and holds a 300 grain cartridge and if properly used it can remove the fingerprints"!!!

jw4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: FL Status: Offline Points: 1334	Post Options Post Reply Quote jw4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 2008 at 11:32pm
	Yep, Ceiner. I had called and they told me to send it back and they'd look at it. But I figured it out myself. They specifically state not to use reduced power mainsprings or told me that. It never jammed or anything. Now it's 100%. My dad has it right now. I shoot my M17 more when I shoot 22's. And no, neither the Ace 22 with the floating Chamber or the JAC kit anywhere duplicate the recoil of the 45 (the floating chamber was supposed to help). But it does duplicate the fell. My JAC kit I got in 1995 or so, I remember them being the only affordable kit (Marvel was making one for about $450 then) at the time. Now there are lots of choices, and as I understand it, some of the others are made by Ceiner. However, it's all about Q/C, and those companies may require testing of each kit or do it themselves. Mine didn't have adjustable sights (not sure if offered in 95), I would recommend getting them. JW

jw4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: FL Status: Offline Points: 1334	Post Options Post Reply Quote jw4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jun 2008 at 11:34pm
	John, How does your Advantage Arms kit shoot??? Got a pic of it locked back? I think my Colt Ace locks back too, does the Advantage Arms kit use Colt Ace Mags? JW

AUTOMAG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: Virginia Beach Status: Offline Points: 1046	Post Options Post Reply Quote AUTOMAG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jun 2008 at 12:28am
	Jason, it shoots very well and is deadly accurate!!! I am not sure if it will accept a Colt Ace magazine or not!!
	"This is the 44 Magnum Auto Mag and holds a 300 grain cartridge and if properly used it can remove the fingerprints"!!!

jw4570 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: FL Status: Offline Points: 1334	Post Options Post Reply Quote jw4570 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jun 2008 at 12:43am
	John, That's interesting how the top stays forward. I imagine that would reduce the recoiling rate and allow lighter 22 bullets to function. I checked out the website and it's a polymer mag and they mention a special follower (and sometimes slide stop) in the mag, which makes me think a Colt Ace mag won't work. There is some model that worked with a Colt Ace mag, maybe it was the Marvel kit. For $250 list on the site, it looks like a good deal. I'd get a good frame, mine is setup on an Auto Ordnance frame with a lot of custom parts, but that's because I had the frame forever and I ruined the feedramp polishing it, so well, it relegated to 22 use. Rick-have you considered using "Fusion" brand parts? Bob Serva runs it (formerly of Dan Wesson I think) and I bought a couple slides from him last year. I emailed him and he put together a "package" price for me (for slide top ends). He'll even assemble parts if you need. I felt they were some of the best parts for the money I'd ever spent for 1911 stuff. I won't go as far as saying as nice as Ed Brown or Wilson, but darn close. Jason

paul v. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List International Auto Mag Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Location: western ny Status: Offline Points: 90	Post Options Post Reply Quote paul v. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jun 2008 at 5:35am
	I have a series 70 Gold Cup that I put an adjustable site Kimber(I believe made by JAC at the time) kit on. It still shoots accurately and functions well even when thuroughly fouled. I have no criticism about the kit. Off the subject a little I have a 460 Rolland kit also. It's a little tricky to get together-heavy springs- but a fun gun. It carries nice and is deadly on 3 deer that I know of. Small doe-40yds,185gXTP@1550fps, Medium 5pt-15yds 200g Gold Dot at1400fps,and the biggest deer I ever shot-200lb doe field dressed. -230gXTP@1350fps The compensator on the muzzle keeps recoil down in the 45acp+p range. Paul V.

Luc V. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 1433	Post Options Post Reply Quote Luc V. Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jun 2008 at 8:16pm
	Anyone has experience with the new 'Marvel' conversions from STI guns? I 'm waiting on the arrival of the shipment here to test them out. The slide should be held open after last shot on the model 1911 only, not on the 2011. Interesting part, one conversion should fit both models (1911 and 2011) just need the two magazines.