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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote edkel1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Mar 2020 at 2:59am
So true, seeing that many barrels at one time reminds me of Wayne's World
" Im not worthy - I'm not worthy " you know who they were addressing ................. Star  most wont remember him or was it a her, showing my age again LOL
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Your front site does NOT look like EDs front site, that was the site we are talking about here! Take a nice pic and then look how BIG his insert cut is, look at his site where it is file down, filings go into the factory sight blade base!. There are file marks from it going down that deep! Your site looks fine, just like beemers barrel site, no doubt those are but not on ED barrel. Look really close at his posted pic without my arrows and line and zoom in on it, it clearly shows these file marks and that would not have been factory. If the buyer got it this way and didn't send it back he was blind. Send ED an insert and then he can photo it sitting inside floppy around in the big sloppy cut and maybe you would understand it better. look at the botton flat cut, it's not even a straight flat, has a little bow if you ask me.
As much as you took pics of all them sites without inserts, which isn't even what I was saying wasn't factory as I was saying that insert cut is NOT factory! Now look at your site with the little orange thingy in it and hold it see you can see it's profile and compare the "INSERT CUT" against your barrel insert cut and maybe you will see my point, very poorly done by whomever but no way did a factory put that out there. I don't think they would be using files for doing that as that has more than one bad side to it.

Your pic of barrels looks like factory but not even close to EDs. I'm sure the inserts are not each hand fitted to whatever size that person of the day does, even though sometimes you have to wonder with Auto Mag. I'm not sure how them Insert cuts are made by factory but you have to think it's milled with an exact size bit so it's done perfect each time.

AGAIN, the site itelf is factory and that was not being disputed, its the INSERT CUTOUT done by? that makes it a mess. Ed just cut the dam thing off and weld up a new one so we can move on already.
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Ed, putting all the nonsense of the last few posts behind us, lets get to the issue you are trying to resolve, getting a replacement insert.

So first thing first; so far as I know there were never any factory plastic site inserts, there were only the notch cut for the early barrels to attach site tape. All the plastic inserts were done by gunsmiths, some by hand some on a mill.

Brownells sells a kit with material, but I cannot tell you if its the same thickness as the Auto Mag site. https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/sight-scope-installation-tools/sight-insert-kits/sight-insert-kit-prod397.aspx

I can 100% assure you no 2 Auto Mag site inserts are the same, they are all different and sometimes they are different from side to side, meaning you cannot spin them front to back.

So bottom line is you must make you own replacement insert and fit it to your site and even get the thickness right.

As for material, a soft plastic is better.  Anything too stiff/ridged will shatter.  Here in the snow-belt the kids use a big disc called a flying saucer to slide down snow covered hills.  They are made of a plastic that remains flexible in all temp and under impact, and I once knew a gunsmith that used one for his site inserts.  I saw it in his shop with a chunk cut out and asked what he was doing with a cut up saucer, and he told me the color and material were perfect for site inserts and he got it out of someones trash for free and should be able to make a thousand inserts out of it. Gotta love old school gunsmiths ;-)

So take a look around for old toys that can be cut up, or maybe make trip to a craft/hobby store and see what they have for plastic stock and I'm sure you will find something that will work for you.

I feel certain you can do this. its not rocket science and not at all worth paying anyone to do for you.

Good Luck

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Originally posted by Auto Mag Auto Mag wrote:

Ed, putting all the nonsense of the last few posts behind us, lets get to the issue you are trying to resolve, getting a replacement insert.

So first thing first; so far as I know there were never any factory plastic site inserts, there were only the notch cut for the early barrels to attach site tape. All the plastic inserts were done by gunsmiths, some by hand some on a mill.

Brownells sells a kit with material, but I cannot tell you if its the same thickness as the Auto Mag site. https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/sight-scope-installation-tools/sight-insert-kits/sight-insert-kit-prod397.aspx

I can 100% assure you no 2 Auto Mag site inserts are the same, they are all different and sometimes they are different from side to side, meaning you cannot spin them front to back.

So bottom line is you must make you own replacement insert and fit it to your site and even get the thickness right.

As for material, a soft plastic is better.  Anything too stiff/ridged will shatter.  Here in the snow-belt the kids use a big disc called a flying saucer to slide down snow covered hills.  They are made of a plastic that remains flexible in all temp and under impact, and I once knew a gunsmith that used one for his site inserts.  I saw it in his shop with a chunk cut out and asked what he was doing with a cut up saucer, and he told me the color and material were perfect for site inserts and he got it out of someones trash for free and should be able to make a thousand inserts out of it. Gotta love old school gunsmiths ;-)

So take a look around for old toys that can be cut up, or maybe make trip to a craft/hobby store and see what they have for plastic stock and I'm sure you will find something that will work for you.

I feel certain you can do this. its not rocket science and not at all worth paying anyone to do for you.

Good Luck

GH

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George...............Thanks for all the advise, will see what I can find 
Scott..................Likewise
Bob....................My son would probably kick mt a$$ if I did
Will do my best to finish this and be done with it and have a beer afterwords like Steve is.....lol
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For those wanting a very good sight insert (and can removed when you concerned about the Original gunvalue) check out the website below.
I prefer the adhesive sheet as it hold the stored light longer as the paint.
It's true as advertised, hold it in the sun for 5 minutes and you will see it all night long!
I use this on many weapons and in low light or indoor shooting it is absolutely the best. Available in many colors, but the Original green is the best.

http://glow-on.com/products.html


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Thanks for the information Luc
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Originally posted by edkel1 edkel1 wrote:

George...............Thanks for all the advise, will see what I can find 
Scott..................Likewise
Bob....................My son would probably kick mt a$$ if I did
Will do my best to finish this and be done with it and have a beer afterwords like Steve is.....lol
Ed

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